The number of people who have joined a Facebook page calling for the death of Hamza Kashgari for Twitter blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad has climbed from 8,000 on Thursday to 16,000 this morning (I just checked the page).
Yesterday, the New York Times reported the figure at 13,000:
More than 13,000 people have joined a Facebook page titled “The Saudi People Demand the Execution of Hamza Kashgari.”
Are there an equivalent number of Muslims speaking out through social media in defense of Hamza Kashgari’s liberty? You would think an American Muslim, for example, might start a pro-Kashgari liberty page (since an American Muslim is in safe remove from the arm of Muslim-majority governments).
If someone knows of such a page, please direct me to it.
I Agree That Hamza Kashgari Should Be Executed for Insulting the Beloved Prophet (SallAllahu Alaihiwsallam)
It is the Only Punishment for blasphemy against the Beloved Prophet (SallAllahu Alaihiwsallam).
Gustaakh-e-Rasoool ki Ek Saza…
Sar Tan se Judaa…. Sar Tan se Judaa
your prophet is a false god. Muhammad had a gang bang with a pig, goat and cow and loved every second of it, slurping up all that animal semen like a protein starved whore
Intollerant bastard. Fascist. No tollerance. to stupid to see written words are made by men. If one was more powerful than you and decideded your opinion did not fitt in and they decide you had to be killed, would you put up your throat and have youre self sloughtered?
No wonder Islamic countries are so backwards, your stupid book also says the earth is flat
Note to all you nut jobs in Saudi Arabia who want ANYONE executed for a tweet: YOUR PROPHET MUHAMMAD HOWLS AT THE MOON!
As so often in history, it is not the prophet who messes up, but it’s his followers who do. Crying false tears over what they think they’ve heared (listening with only one ear), they lust for blood in the name of peace. Well, if Allah be the benevolent and the bringer of peace, then how shall we see his followers? Murderers of freedom they are: their benevolence is death by stoning, their peace is the silence of the grave yard.
Many muslims do view the facebook reactions with disgust. I even dear to say the vast majority. Most of us do not live in a theocracy, and never want anything to do with that. But our governments are allied with the religious establishment in one way or another, and they serve mutual goals; keeping people ignorant and hostage while exploiting our lands and nations. So these kind of actions are well coordinated and massive (especially in the best ally of the USA, namely the unbelievable bloodthursty and backward theocracy of Saudi Arabia), while the average muslim hardly has a voice (except in some countries like Morocco, Indonesia or Turkey), but political representation of our peoples is a rare commodity. Most muslims are busy surviving, to feed their families and dont care or are not allowed to care for such things cause they have more pressing priorities. So thats one explanation of the ‘deafening silence’ behind muslim public opinion.
We though, feel the same disgust when confronted with remarks of idiots like some people above, who insult islam or muslim people because of these detestable actions, or who applaud these actions out of ignorance, extremism and stunning blindness. I have two things to say:
1. You dont give a damn for every muslim that gets oppressed, tortured or killed,
2. You can walk straight to hell, together with your theocratic allies.
Many people like me have little idea of what said and not really interested to know, Anyway he should be examined first for any mental untenability rather than jumping to the conclusion and chanting, blood
I agree with you that haters of Muslims and Muslims who hate are repugnant and that the first comments to this thread represent stupidity. But, just to be clear, in the line you are walking between Islamic theocrats and those who hate and bait Muslims, do you nevertheless support, without qualification, Hamza Kashgari’s human right to unfettered free speech—including offensive speech directed at the Prophet Muhammad?
From what I gather in your comment you oppose his execution for blasphemy, but do you also agree that he should not be punished at all? That is, do you agree that he should be immediately released from police custody and allowed to live wherever he pleases, and exactly as he pleases, saying whatever he wants?
If you return to this thread, please clarify your position with regard to Hamza Kashgari specifically.
On the contrary, I do give a damn and I wish the USA would stop supporting the Saudis
guys why you bother about him,he is one of us (a Muslim) and we are the right persons to punish or forgive him , for that there are beloved oulemats who see in many aspects and decide a final decision to be taken.Please do not waste your time and save you speech here or elsewhere. As a Muslim we are not allowed to offend any prophet whether Jesus,Abraham,Mohamed or Moise etc peace and mercy be upon them all .every one of you should know that if we were allowed to offend a prophet of God , we would but that won’t happen. Shame on those who insult a prophet and deserve to be punished by the order of the oulemats thank you for your understanding
There is no greater insult that you could make to Jesus Christ than performing a religiously inspired (condoned by the clergy), state sponsored execution – because that is exactly what He got in His time. Repeating it is proving you have learned NOTHING from his teachings, and that you use His name in vanity.
Good catch about Jesus. It’s pathetic to see the powerless Nazarene brought in for cover. He was crucified for blasphemy and mouthing off at those in positions of power.
I would especially like to point at the Gospel of John 8, where Jesus makes it perfectly clear that no man has the right to perform such an execution. The fact that the case at hand concerns adultery (as opposed to blasphemy) is of no consequence, because the argument used is universal and holds for all cases:
but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”
(John 8:1-11 ESV)
To clarify the argument: No man is qualified such an execution because no man is without sin.
The argument that Jesus uses is: “Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.”
Noone can throw the first stone, i.e. noone is qualified to effectuate the execution, because noone is without sin. Older men leave the scene first, indicating that they have more sins to think of than the younger ones, apparently because – sadly – sinning is, in a man’s life, not a one time only event, but all people, even the most pious ones (the scribes and the Pharisees) seem to have a bad habit in sinning.
Your point is taken, but in this case nothing remotely sinful happened. The sin is when we don’t speak our minds; we don’t tell the truth as we see it. This man spoke the truth as he saw it. Those who do not speak up for his sinlessness in this instance are the ones in sin.
Who wants to live in a world where lying—never speaking your mind out loud—is the only move the authorities want from you? That’s a sinful world. This man was in the process of making the world less sinful.
Please tell me why Christianity is is weak that official Christianity has been characterized by wholesale persecution and slaughter of innocents as well as perpetrating a salvation racket
Why do you presume that the mind of Hamza Kashgari belongs to you and your community? His mind and mouth belong to him as a free human being, not to those he just happens to have been born around and lives near as neighbors. It is Kashgari who has been sinned against here, not you. You are an adult and can hear things. You know that people in the world have different views about religion. You can be exposed to them. You ought to be asking forgiveness of him.
Respect for an individual’s expression of mind and conscience is the minimal beginning of all genuine religion and decency. You make a farce of religion when you do not give others the space to question and parody religion exactly as their reason and conscience dictates.
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Muslims who blaspheme against Judaism should also then be put to death.