Gay Marriage Debate Watch: Barney Frank Totally Owns Tony Perkins

The below segment of a recent Chris Matthews show is simply devastating. It shows Chris Matthews and Barney Frank intellectually eviscerating Tony Perkins, argument by argument. The political ground is shifting fast on gay marriage, and this clip nicely illustrates why.

About Santi Tafarella

I teach writing and literature at Antelope Valley College in California.
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4 Responses to Gay Marriage Debate Watch: Barney Frank Totally Owns Tony Perkins

  1. Paradigm says:

    I don’t oppose gay marriage but I’m suspicious of gay adoptions. And I fear that gay marriage will enable gay adoption. Proponents of gay adoption always point to how all the studies give the same result but never say anything about how almost all the studies are on wealthy lesbians living in California.

    As for Romney, I think he will survive his “bad hair day” for the simple reason that there is no other candidate. But I don’t think he will become president. As time goes people will pick up on the fact that Romney is a snake in a suit. Obama is still liked by many, and as things are developing here in Europe they will realize that Obama might not have done such a terrible job after all.

    • Santi Tafarella says:

      Yes, but if Europe’s economy stalls America’s economy, then Obama is likely to go down as well.

  2. Cody says:

    First off, I must admit that I think it’s to everyone’s benefit that we use the term “marriage equality.” “Gay marriage” sounds an awful lot like that terrible term, “intermarriage,” that we thankfully don’t hear too much anymore.

    I must side with Barney Frank. There is simply no reason an LGBTQIA couple should not be able to marry and enjoy all the legal benefits and ramifications that contract entails. To argue that marriage is a religious institution is ridiculous. I know of no gay couples who are upset because they cannot get married for religious reasons. I’m sure there are some out there, but the main reason many gay couples want to get married is because they want to see their loved ones in the hospital, have the rights allotted heterosexual coupes when one partner passes away, and share their lives together in general.

    In all honesty, it’s somewhat surprising to me that many LGBTQIA couples fight so hard for this problematic institution. I know of some members of the queer community who are interested in taking down the institution entirely and all the hierarchies along with it, but that’s another conversation.

    • Santi Tafarella says:

      It is a bourgeois scene, isn’t it?

      And you’re right, we should be emphasizing that this fight is for civic marriage, not religious marriage. A church can decline to marry a couple; the state, if it is to remain secular, cannot. A state that fails to recognize a desired union (for tax and civil equality purposes), discriminates.

      —Santi

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